Thanks for sharing these insights about venice.ai, Tom - I’m going to look into it further. Permissionless and private are excellent properties, and I confirmed in their TOS that users ‘own’ what they generate.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a few questions:
- The models they use, eg Llama, are open weights, not true open source. Is Venice.ai itself open source? The FAQ doesn’t address this. https://venice.ai/faqs
- Does the absence of guardrails mean that Venice could potentially be used unethically to generate images based on copyrighted base content, deepfakes, undressing, CSAM, etc? (The TOS say this isn’t permissible, but there doesn’t seem to be any control or enforcement mechanism.) Asking because Venice includes PixArt Sigma which was trained on Stable Diffusion's 1.5 model; that model was recently pulled from Hugging Face due to its inclusion of CSAM content. (https://spectrum.ieee.org/stable-diffusion).
- Do you have a venice.ai referral code I could use so that you get points when I sign up? :)
I'm not sure what it means for me but it's always nice to know when others appreciate the post enough to visit the vendor.
You've brought up some very insightful points. I think these are worthy of asking Venice directly. So if I have a few minutes this week I plan to send them your note with your thoughts.
Regard guardrails, I had the same thought (worry) myself. As you know, this is a hot topic right now with the AI industry in general. It was one we discussed at times even in the 1980s. I don't have an answer but it would be worth asking Venice this too, to see how they would respond.
Karen, thank you for being subscriber and taking the time to write a thoughtful response. Means a lot to me.
I have been using venice ai. It is really nice to see an AI that do not keep answering as an LLM....I can't do this and that. It keeps the creative juice flowing. And I can make image with Flux. Which is amazing
Thanks for sharing these insights about venice.ai, Tom - I’m going to look into it further. Permissionless and private are excellent properties, and I confirmed in their TOS that users ‘own’ what they generate.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a few questions:
- The models they use, eg Llama, are open weights, not true open source. Is Venice.ai itself open source? The FAQ doesn’t address this. https://venice.ai/faqs
- Does the absence of guardrails mean that Venice could potentially be used unethically to generate images based on copyrighted base content, deepfakes, undressing, CSAM, etc? (The TOS say this isn’t permissible, but there doesn’t seem to be any control or enforcement mechanism.) Asking because Venice includes PixArt Sigma which was trained on Stable Diffusion's 1.5 model; that model was recently pulled from Hugging Face due to its inclusion of CSAM content. (https://spectrum.ieee.org/stable-diffusion).
- Do you have a venice.ai referral code I could use so that you get points when I sign up? :)
You can use this as a referral code - thank you.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/09/doppelganger-a-trip-into-the-mirror-world-by-naomi-klein-review-a-case-of-mistaken-identity
I'm not sure what it means for me but it's always nice to know when others appreciate the post enough to visit the vendor.
You've brought up some very insightful points. I think these are worthy of asking Venice directly. So if I have a few minutes this week I plan to send them your note with your thoughts.
Regard guardrails, I had the same thought (worry) myself. As you know, this is a hot topic right now with the AI industry in general. It was one we discussed at times even in the 1980s. I don't have an answer but it would be worth asking Venice this too, to see how they would respond.
Karen, thank you for being subscriber and taking the time to write a thoughtful response. Means a lot to me.
appreciatively
Tom
Thanks, Tom; looking forward to your future posts and to hearing what you learn from Venice.
I have been using venice ai. It is really nice to see an AI that do not keep answering as an LLM....I can't do this and that. It keeps the creative juice flowing. And I can make image with Flux. Which is amazing
I agree!